tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post3077618138299672905..comments2023-03-31T00:42:14.692-07:00Comments on Conversations With Chris Bernard: The Role of Emotion in ExperienceMolly Broganhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02864214690848523445noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-17301204177243626532009-11-08T08:56:15.735-08:002009-11-08T08:56:15.735-08:00Certainly we are all fall prey to the cognitive su...Certainly we are all fall prey to the cognitive subjectiveness of our emotions. Such either serves the distraction into the carnal instincts of materialism or the higher sensory of the self and perhaps even the collective.<br /><br />The comment John made with catch 22 made me think of the metaphysical state of 22 axioms. I will find my document titled Axiomatrics and post the 22 axioms. Thay areRobertnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-43924672152124111312009-11-04T11:08:02.408-08:002009-11-04T11:08:02.408-08:00It seems to me that the role of emotion in everyda...It seems to me that the role of emotion in everyday life is sort of a catch 22 scenario. Our daily experience is both effected by and effects emotions. On the one hand how we perceive the world at any given moment is colored by our current state of emotion; at the same time what we perceive directly influences that emotion.<br /><br />For example, a person can be sad and will often times perceiveJohnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-86581292688879591952009-10-26T07:54:19.180-07:002009-10-26T07:54:19.180-07:00Great job! It's funny that you were referred t...Great job! It's funny that you were referred to a therapist especially a specialist in energy medicine because if been on the" job" most of my adult life as a massage therapist with a special gift of "touch". When people asked what is my occupation, I'd reply that I was involved in the "energy transfer" business, techniquely speaking! So, Nancy, you're onLouisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-67417109529416430952009-10-26T07:53:44.736-07:002009-10-26T07:53:44.736-07:00An interesting topic. Late in the summer, I was re...An interesting topic. Late in the summer, I was referred to an "Energy Medicine" therapist. I related to her the events of the previous year, including the passing of both parents and was experiencing the rush of anguish and emotion I'd been unable to move beyond. The therapist began tapping on points around my eyes, below my nose, chin and chest. Within two minutes, the emotion Nancynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-67674573392521562242009-10-20T05:12:40.054-07:002009-10-20T05:12:40.054-07:00Emotions are expressions of what you feel. The fee...Emotions are expressions of what you feel. The feelings are overpowering enough to determine your thought, attitude, speech and action, and qualifies what you are in terms behaviour and ethic.<br /><br />All else is explanation of the phenomenon. It serves to make us be aware of the material coincidental processes and to be to apply such knowledge, one or other.<br /><br />All of that changes Vamnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-76580044688772740532009-10-10T05:37:21.929-07:002009-10-10T05:37:21.929-07:00Thank you Molly for beginning this discussion on t...Thank you Molly for beginning this discussion on the often mis-understood/feared nature of our emotional aspect. I agree with Carl Jung's view that intelligence is only half-complete is using only the logic of the head and that for full intelligence, human beings need to drop into their heart and hear what their emotions have to say as well.<br />Or as I say to my students as a short-cut Jaikurnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-82724948991910103002009-10-09T09:48:28.639-07:002009-10-09T09:48:28.639-07:00I wonder whether the distinction we make between e...I wonder whether the distinction we make between emotions and reason, feelings and thought isn't something conventional, artificial. Necessary in all sorts of ways in order for us to organise and analyse, to cooperate and build complexly, but, nonetheless, just one model of the way we work and are. Certainly it's not a very realistic model of the way we function, individually and Francisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-9649220911299617142009-10-09T09:46:41.329-07:002009-10-09T09:46:41.329-07:00At bottom my belief is that we are manipulated int...At bottom my belief is that we are manipulated into emotional positions almost as pack wolves (or some birds) form a hierarchy. Generally 'politics' is so exasperating we are supposed to give up on it and trundle along as cogs in wheels being as 'happy' as we can. There would seem to be a big connection in this between emotions and manipulation, probably a depressing and Neilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-72343522727530549002009-10-09T09:42:35.508-07:002009-10-09T09:42:35.508-07:00I can see that Sartre's ideas shed light on th...I can see that Sartre's ideas shed light on the process of anger or resentment or indifference as emotional responses that relieve us of the responsibility of participating in the greater world or possibility available. These responses carry with them old tracks and experiences about religion that turned us from faith, or taught us to avoid the mention of it. Perhaps even more complex Molly Broganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02864214690848523445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-23071439069815174222009-10-09T09:41:17.148-07:002009-10-09T09:41:17.148-07:00Is the message indicating that the same data may b...Is the message indicating that the same data may be viewed from different perspectives. The views implied are a close up of details (i.e.in the midst of forest viewing the closest tree) contrasted with a wide angle view ( i.e. observing from the vantage point of being on the edge of the forest.) This idea could be expanded to include other dimensions (i.e. observing the forest from the vantage Gibbsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-29898930067616213562009-10-09T09:35:05.359-07:002009-10-09T09:35:05.359-07:00I agree that emotion is the outward expression of ...I agree that emotion is the outward expression of our feelings, but I think they are also more complicated than the feelings, as they bring with them the remembrance of a cluster of events where the same or similar feelings occurred, and so create emotional tracks for us that can be tricky to recognize and difficult to move beyond, especially for those not inclined toward introspection.Molly Broganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02864214690848523445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-301620187324709522009-10-09T09:30:55.199-07:002009-10-09T09:30:55.199-07:00"Emotions can be expressed in isolation."..."Emotions can be expressed in isolation."<br /><br />Absolutely. In that way, we communicate our feelings to God alone. Not that God doesn't receive the messages when we are NOT alone, but He is the only receiver when we ARE alone. <br /><br />"Does emotion really need to be that metaphysical?"<br /><br />Everything is metaphysical, as metaphysics underlies physics. <br /Patnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-3434712610632979892009-10-09T09:26:26.803-07:002009-10-09T09:26:26.803-07:00Does emotion really need to be that metaphysical?
...Does emotion really need to be that metaphysical?<br /><br />We are physical creatures, and our emotions and feelings are part of our physical interface to the world. A cat's fur stands on end to make the animal look larger upon encountering a dog. A stag's body fills with adrenaline with the thrill of combat. I don't think these emotions are any different than ours.<br /><br />OurJuannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-91690413249439967862009-10-09T09:22:16.734-07:002009-10-09T09:22:16.734-07:00I think that you are right Pat but I think we can ...I think that you are right Pat but I think we can take that as a given really, emotions certainly show the truth of how we feel.<br /><br />I question though whether emotions arise from perception of the world and experience or not?<br /><br />I think that perhaps when they form they do so innately without reference to that which is external of us, and then perhaps as we experience more our Leenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-29407238649389031382009-10-09T09:20:09.314-07:002009-10-09T09:20:09.314-07:00As for me, I see emotions as the outward expressio...As for me, I see emotions as the outward expression of inner feelings. They are the way we communicate our inner feelings to those around us. So, emotions are a form of communication of data (our inner feelings) to those who cannot (and, perhaps, could not) perceive them (the feelings) in an obvious way.Patnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-15050236749395721332009-10-09T09:19:20.189-07:002009-10-09T09:19:20.189-07:00I think that is Whitehead's point, the emotion...I think that is Whitehead's point, the emotions are grounded in the body experience. In the case of the hungry infant, both are possible, in Whitehead's view.Molly Broganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02864214690848523445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-56364104093703511372009-10-09T09:18:41.854-07:002009-10-09T09:18:41.854-07:00imo the baby crying is a food mantra.. and boy doe...imo the baby crying is a food mantra.. and boy does it work in the greatest majority of casesAllannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-59431870126816853452009-10-09T09:17:27.354-07:002009-10-09T09:17:27.354-07:00Is indifference an emotion, I wonder, or is such i...Is indifference an emotion, I wonder, or is such indifference caused by other emotions I wonder?Leenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-41220275657213113992009-10-09T09:16:20.010-07:002009-10-09T09:16:20.010-07:00Not talking about lust or love but of emotional de...Not talking about lust or love but of emotional depletion. Again it's subjective and I could not possibly comment on your personal emotional levels nor that of any other so the generalization is apropos. Most of what you've commented on so far has been from a personal perspective. So what you are saying is that it is impossible that someone could be void of a certain emotion, that Ulyssesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-48408622425240094982009-10-09T09:14:43.406-07:002009-10-09T09:14:43.406-07:00I really don't know the answer to that one, be...I really don't know the answer to that one, beyond some vague idea that the 'I' is there before perception of the outside world begins.<br /><br />When a newborn cries for food, does he do so because his experience suggests that when I cry the mum feeds me, or does he cry because he is hungry and his emotions cause him to cry?Leenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-41125771332108920022009-10-09T09:13:43.481-07:002009-10-09T09:13:43.481-07:00Is all that is within originating from all that is...Is all that is within originating from all that is external in one form or another?Ulyssesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-58930602529793148422009-10-09T09:12:16.075-07:002009-10-09T09:12:16.075-07:00What is the role of emotion? Good question.
I wa...What is the role of emotion? Good question.<br /><br />I was giving some thought to another Randism the other week namely the following.<br /><br />'Emotions are the automatic result of man's value judgments integrated by his subconscious; emotions are estimates of that which furthers man's values or threatens them, that which is for him or against him— lightning calculators giving Leenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-42708304307599561602009-10-09T09:09:38.483-07:002009-10-09T09:09:38.483-07:00emotions are responsive to external stimuli and a ...emotions are responsive to external stimuli and a result of the perception of that stimuli. For this reason different people react differently to similar stimuli. Not all people are brought to tears by what is perceived by some as a very sad event, therefore emotions can be subjective. Emotions can be a release of subconscious senses and play a role in growth. We react differently to the sameUlyssesnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-91843223872950588982009-10-01T14:22:37.488-07:002009-10-01T14:22:37.488-07:00To view 'The Role of Emotion' from functio...To view 'The Role of Emotion' from functional standpoint, it must be acknowledged that the human relations are based what is called 'bodily feelings' or 'play of mind'. So far as it remains unoperative within a person, it does not matter so much. But when it interacts with a given social phenomenon constituted of similiar feelings, then it really matters. Why? Because hereShamalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-32278657037687505452009-10-01T12:55:37.429-07:002009-10-01T12:55:37.429-07:00I completely agree that it is important to recogni...I completely agree that it is important to recognize and either release or process our feelings as emotions. Emotions, I think, are the outward expression of our feelings but can carry the baggage of other events associated with those feelings - a function of ego I think. Emotions can warn us by associating with past distress and are functional as such until we hold on to that distress and reliveMolly Broganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02864214690848523445noreply@blogger.com