tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post9195205863875654484..comments2023-03-31T00:42:14.692-07:00Comments on Conversations With Chris Bernard: The Landscape of Facing DeathMolly Broganhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02864214690848523445noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-90589949185848729112010-02-11T08:39:42.308-08:002010-02-11T08:39:42.308-08:00I'm afraid to face death in my family these da...I'm afraid to face death in my family these days. It is honestly the only experience where I do nothing, because there is no desire, and no ability to act, nor any need for something to be done.<br /><br />Maybe it is to dwell on this still point, and to sense it for a while.Astridnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-23909412187944521622010-02-03T06:26:30.779-08:002010-02-03T06:26:30.779-08:00had those periodic headaches for about 5 years and...had those periodic headaches for about 5 years and also wondered if it was not my opportunity to explore within, as nothing else was left to me. One of my favorite concepts from the above mentioned mystic is his idea that sleep, dream and waking are all really the same state, if experienced from the clear and ever present awareness. There are obvious differences with the experiences of dream Molly Broganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02864214690848523445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-78972616201974034152010-02-03T06:24:31.445-08:002010-02-03T06:24:31.445-08:00Funnily enough, I was thinking along similar lines...Funnily enough, I was thinking along similar lines last night. As I'm sure I've mentioned, I've been having periodic migraines over the last year. Some of which have lasted for several days and have resulted in weight loss (about 25 lbs since March of 2009) as I've not been able to eat or keep anything down during these periods as it comes right back up. I don't want to putPatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-82076887349062022382010-02-03T06:21:43.990-08:002010-02-03T06:21:43.990-08:00From Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj: "In ignorance ...From Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj: "In ignorance the seer becomes the seen and in wisdom he is the seeing." In terms of death, it makes me wonder what this difference in position would mean to us at the moment of death. If we are entrenched in the seen, the story, the details, the fears...the experience will be very different than one in the position of "seeing."Molly Broganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02864214690848523445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-15174859787337597172010-02-03T06:17:22.372-08:002010-02-03T06:17:22.372-08:00Indeed, until one wakes up to the knowledge that d...Indeed, until one wakes up to the knowledge that despite their immanent presence, their hard reality, they are nothing more than mere concepts, er, forms of consciousness ... which disappears when our own reference merges in the pure ( unformed ) consciousness.Vamadevanandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-41476121817141041342010-02-03T06:16:18.166-08:002010-02-03T06:16:18.166-08:00"Death is the first coincident immanence as t..."Death is the first coincident immanence as the pure consciousness reveals its potential ..." <br /><br />It seems to me that painting the landscape of death with this form would make life and death eternal...Molly Broganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02864214690848523445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-27985346265573808492010-02-03T06:15:27.890-08:002010-02-03T06:15:27.890-08:00Ah, Molly, verily, death is well within each one u...Ah, Molly, verily, death is well within each one us, all the while. This body includes trillions of micro organisms and hundreds of compounds, working in particular ways symbiotically, strengthening or keeping us strengthened, to deliver effort. The symbiotic working fails, at first rarely, then occasionally, in parts, ... increasingly, more completely ... those same materials and organisms Vamadevanandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-15269781622648614952010-02-03T06:13:27.541-08:002010-02-03T06:13:27.541-08:00An old lady I have been caring for for the past fi...An old lady I have been caring for for the past five years died this morning. <br /><br />She didn't die well. She had been sinking deeper into dementia for the past couple of years - a strange form of it, which left her recognition of people (names, faces, histories, characters, etc.) peculiarly complete but made her ever more incapable of organizing the simplest things in her life. <br />Francisnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-5972167900175016512010-02-03T06:08:08.422-08:002010-02-03T06:08:08.422-08:00I don't know about death being "easy"...I don't know about death being "easy" Pat. My father lost his memory to Alzheimers before the age of 50, and lingered on this earth without short or long term memory, control of body function or emotional recognition for seven more years. I often wonder if folks in this position are just place holders for death in some way, their continued purpose for living incomprehensible. Molly Broganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02864214690848523445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-61392453085778369112010-01-26T08:46:12.538-08:002010-01-26T08:46:12.538-08:00I lost someone very close to me once. Before he di...I lost someone very close to me once. Before he died he was in the hospital for several weeks. During that time he described colors and visions and had an amazing peaceful energy. He confided in me that he didn’t think he was going to survive and wanted me to be OK with that. He was supposed be released from the hospital the day that he died. His death was unexpected and unexplained. I suspect heSnownoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-57033853032009450602010-01-26T08:44:49.492-08:002010-01-26T08:44:49.492-08:00I have met many who were near death, and just befo...I have met many who were near death, and just before death took them. Some had fear, others had greater fear where they fought hard in hanging on only to prolong their suffering, God Bless them. I did my best to help in ways where I could give some insights to what awaited them, and I did see a slight change for the better come over them when they listened, especially their families.<br /><br />Solonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-58152305242867659372010-01-26T08:43:05.026-08:002010-01-26T08:43:05.026-08:00On Death
You would know the secret of death.
But ...On Death<br /><br />You would know the secret of death.<br />But how shall you find it unless you seek it in the heart of life?<br />The owl whose night-bound eyes are blind unto the day cannot unveil the mystery of light.<br />If you would indeed behold the spirit of death, open your heart wide unto the body of life.<br />For life and death are one, even as the river and the sea are one.<br /><Mirjananoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-80986060406700392402010-01-25T09:04:37.941-08:002010-01-25T09:04:37.941-08:00I think it varies for everyone. I found with my li...I think it varies for everyone. I found with my little mum, that she was able to sing a little song with me & then slept on & off, I asked her if she was going to leave me, she smiled & said perhaps. After they gave her a shot to calm her heart down, I knew she was going to leave her body...so I got into the bed with her, put her head on my chest & slowly rocked her while singing WSnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-14640799873646751662010-01-25T08:47:11.397-08:002010-01-25T08:47:11.397-08:00As I've heard somewhere...Death, that's a ...As I've heard somewhere...Death, that's a doddle; it's one of the easiest things you'll do.Patnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-71853337846443776492010-01-25T08:46:00.531-08:002010-01-25T08:46:00.531-08:00Molly, it was beautiful !
Yet, it's how it i...Molly, it was beautiful ! <br /><br />Yet, it's how it is when we use words to communicate. The actual realisation is in that instant ... infinite, clear, complete, nothing, the thing. It is the One, without a second, homogeneous, witness, pure, conscious, the power, the ruler, the ordainer. It is. All. Nothing. One. <br /><br />One imagery in Kath is that of the deepest recess of, in the Vamadevanandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-12779292791574399472010-01-25T08:44:26.040-08:002010-01-25T08:44:26.040-08:00(cont.)
In his faith Nachiketa knows that all the ...(cont.)<br />In his faith Nachiketa knows that all the pleasures, even the highest joys of life, do not continue forever. They pass away, leaving pain in their wake. No matter where one goes, or what one does, as long as worldly desires are present there can be no real peace. It doesn’t matter whether a person lives totally in the world, surrounded by and fully partaking of the world’s pleasures,Molly Broganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02864214690848523445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-41807817498041813292010-01-25T08:43:49.274-08:002010-01-25T08:43:49.274-08:00(cont.)
The phenomenal universe, as the Upanisha...(cont.)<br /><br /><br />The phenomenal universe, as the Upanishads explain repeatedly, is impermanent and constantly changing, evolving, growing, decaying, and dying. It goes on endlessly this way—coming, going, dying. That is its nature. Anyone who becomes attached to the phenomenal world with all of its changing forms is sure to come to grief in the end. Yet the phenomenal world plays a Molly Broganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02864214690848523445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-1415223114507543762010-01-25T08:42:53.474-08:002010-01-25T08:42:53.474-08:00So you think we would be best served to bring this...So you think we would be best served to bring this to the table (according to the story below)? "they let go of their attachments to worldly things, including their own material bodies, they will begin to experience a sense of peace of immeasurably greater value than any wealth or comfort material existence could ever offer." <br /><br />The story: <br /><br /> The Upanishad Molly Broganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02864214690848523445noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-73836644482492309572010-01-25T08:31:36.308-08:002010-01-25T08:31:36.308-08:00An entire Upanishad, Kathopanishad, is devoted to ...An entire Upanishad, Kathopanishad, is devoted to the death phenomenon and beyond, before taking up the familiar core Advaita thought. <br /><br />It starts with Nachiketa posing his query to Yama, the God of death. The latter says, " O Nachiketa, take all the boons of the three worlds, and more, but please excuse me from answering this one question of yours." The lad ( yes, Nachiketa Vamadevanandanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-53675604999325976252010-01-25T08:30:02.558-08:002010-01-25T08:30:02.558-08:00I can only think that it's the individual'...I can only think that it's the individual's understanding of the process. And that includes Lee's 'fear' element, as well as any religious/non-religious beliefs ABOUT death. Both the religious and non-religious could have perfectly good reasons for not fearing it: the religious, because they believe that there is a life-after-death and their belief that they will Patnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-86401741122342174932010-01-25T08:28:35.824-08:002010-01-25T08:28:35.824-08:00It's just gota be a personal thing hasn't ...It's just gota be a personal thing hasn't it? <br /><br />My Grandad died just last week, he died of Liver Cancer, he had been clinging to life for the last three years and went out looking gaunt and wasted. My Nan has colon cancer and has just decided to not have treatment for it after watching my grandad fade out slowly. <br /><br /><br />It's just gotta be personal choice, yes?Leenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-15807502180140626482010-01-24T19:38:22.017-08:002010-01-24T19:38:22.017-08:00I like what Dennis said.
For me death is simply ...I like what Dennis said. <br /><br />For me death is simply the <b>door out</b> right next to the <b>door in</b>. The key is the raising of consciousness that allows you to see that "life is judged by itself". I believe in recurrence and "raising the level of your being". If nothing has changed in your personal sphere of being, you are destined to repeat until you get it rightStudio DavAnnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18249101702475841131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-83454517379402437072010-01-24T08:35:38.827-08:002010-01-24T08:35:38.827-08:00death itself is not as bad as people usually imagi...death itself is not as bad as people usually imagine. Mostly it's your own fear that makes things difficult. Of course the more difficult or surprising the circumstances of your death, the more difficult it can be to have calm and recall as you die.Michaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-80865478019315115782010-01-24T08:23:21.997-08:002010-01-24T08:23:21.997-08:00Death is the beginning of new journey with new sur...Death is the beginning of new journey with new surroundings and new state of happiness !!!Ratannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2916532122185648082.post-59878391502009130842010-01-24T08:22:35.669-08:002010-01-24T08:22:35.669-08:00Those who understand the continuity of motion and ...Those who understand the continuity of motion and energy will have less problems dealing with death. Life can't be extinguished in an instant. Those who are accepting of their connection to a much larger reality will find comfort in this fact.<br />From my perspective, fear is the worst enemy. It will cause problems and pain before physical death, and problems after, when the search for Nabilnoreply@blogger.com